Jump to latest Follow Reply. I got a i5 6600k ~ 4,4Ghz + 980ti. ago. Go to Fleet Manager carefully delete dozens or hundreds of "empty" fleets you created without realizing it. Some mods can help like my mod prevent ai from spamming habitats various other performance mods. We also just started the save so the problem is not connected to it being late game or anything and I never had the game run this slowly, not even in my lategames with. Put game speed down from faster or fastest to just normal in late game mostly it runs bit smoother then. The L gate lag is meant to be fixed in the latest beta which you can opt into via steam (right click stellaris in your library and select properties). 3. Great game, but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ how come they aren't stopping everything to solve it 3 years ago? There is nothing more urgent than this. 144. If you have struggled through the pain, you will know this all to well. Almost all the galaxy is colonized and lots of stuff is happening. Game still lags a bit when selecting multiple fleets, but now it is actually playable, where other games. I also can't control the mousewheel speed from Windows, i. There are many options in the stellaris game details screen that can reduce lag, since its most of the lag comes from the galaxy population and number of visible ships. Performance slowdown It would not be THAT bad should a game month be at least somehow comparable with early game performance. set habitable planets to the lowest setting, since lag primarily comes from pops. The Factorio dev team is amazing. The problem, as I see it, is that one processor out. Running out of RAM or running low can cause a sudden unexpected slowdown late game even when no fights are taking place. As populations baloon this obviously becomes a problem. For quire a few reasons: 1. NFL. Currently Im playing on a 1000 system game and Im on the year 2400. Mr. 2 - 2. The answer is quantity of habitable worlds. No matter how many cores you had, you would get the same performance (assuming equal CPU clock speed but different CPU core count) SImilarly, limitations may apply to Stellaris' code which means that your hardware specs may be irrelevant to some degree. that is a lot of calculations it has to do. Mid-game, the timer starts to slow down, but by late game, even on fastest speed, the time will be a day a second max, versus five days a second on fastest. The longer I play Stellaris, the more micro-lag i accumulate . Turns out, it's because of more free jobs! 2. Hard for me to gauge though, it was never really that bad for me, noticeable but entirely bearable. 8GHz should be good enough to handle early to mid-game. The lag is so bad it drops me to 6-10 FPS and I can't figure out the cause. population before lagg starts. There are some mods that help with the lag, but those mess up the already messed up AI. #8. Late game performance tips that work. Other then mentioned settings a way better cpu or wait for paradox to improve better. sgagnon • 5 yr. I have to pause the game to issue fleet orders and such. 1 AngrySayian • 1 yr. A guy said a couple days ago that using a mod to disable l gates and removing wormholes and gateways improves the performances significantly since ai wont try to. If you have something like that, breaking a big sector into smaller sectors is recommended until it gets patched. 9. Obviously xeno-compatibility would also compound on top of this. Xgamer11270. It'll run fine for . 2 performance does not increase after the crisis hits. The only other options are to either reduce the map size, reduce the habitable worlds, reduce hyper-lane density, or reduce the number of starting AI empires. 1) One of your planets is stuck in a job-loop. I know you can't make people pay for performance improvements (I think. Before I upgraded my hardware, I benchmarked Stellaris with my save file. And yes, always turn off Xeno-Compatibility as it is one of the number one causes of late game lag. 6 late game! Of course, that may depend on the machine and game settings. I've found that for some ungodly reason, science ships lag the game more than any generic late-game lag I've seen. Also, the game needa optimization, it's pretty buggy as of now. After I disbanded all my science ships, the lag was almost. Not. It appears that significant performance drop when selecting fleets is, in part, caused by them being not full and game trying to trace reinforcement shipyards. You'll still find wormholes to unique systems and in the very late game a sparse amount of gateways will still be possible (mostly from awakened fallen empires). 7 update, but when I loaded a late-game 2. 3. 2, the maximum number of pops a planet can house was 25, and these planets were rare. They release a dlc focused on soviets, but soviets are unplayable at late game (as most of other countries post war 2). I'm getting sudden lag in the late game. I just thought the Xbox series x would be able to take on a lot more. I also play on low graphics 1080p as I don't have a dedicated GPU, bloom off, and cap framerate at 30 as it just can't maintain 60fps. i was really looking forward to this update and the performance improvements but it. It takes quite a long time to reach the point where its unplayable, and its settings dependant at that. (i dont build them myself if i have this mod on) Also made the wars a lot cleaner not having to fight though every system with 5-6 habitats. They have tons of fleets and dont upgrade them and it makes the game lag. Whatever the tick that does the majority of the game calculations causes a hiccup. I know for a fact its because a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of loops try to execute at the same time because the game literally pulses with lag, and it still does it when you put the game on slow. The Problem isn't the tick lenght, it's the LAG! #2. Part of the equation really is that Stellaris is pretty CPU hungry and probably always will be. Beyond that a faster processor is really all you can do. . 6 playthrough in the new patch, the game got catastrophically slow. The amount of ships seems to be irrelevant, only the fleet power number contributes to the lag. Anything to reduce lag or speed up mid- to late game Question I noticed the 3. It's measured in nanoseconds, but those nanoseconds really add up when doing a whole bunch of calculations. With gestalt owning the whole galaxy, and having 4 races i can have over 13k. iii. They release a dlc focused on soviets, but soviets are unplayable at late game (as most of other countries post war 2). Lategame lag unbearable. Consistant frame lag/drops. This would be easier to calculate because its just a simple set of numbers being. It gets quite slow in the late game and you just need to live with it. 25x , playing on smaller galaxy sizes, and tweaking the pop growth curve settings to make pop growth slower. Stellaris. Stellaris should absolutely be run in fullscreen (you select it in the launcher) with VSync disabled and fast sync forced in your graphics cards control panel, but that goes for pretty much every game. But its a pop thing even though lately its a lot better. Late game lag is horrible. Those last 3 are the most important settings. The planet's AI will assign enforcers to lower crime, reassign them to other jobs when crime goes down the next day, reassign police when crime goes up the next day, and so on and so forth. My friend's 13900k isn't really any faster either. Story packs thus far focus on early to mid game content, but AFAIK there isn't anything for late game. 2. The file started at 2356. So performance is complete shit on high core cpus that trade off some clock speed. FPS increases but there is every 3 seconds something like 2 sec "freeze" Deeper into the game it gets worse and worse. I did a quick test, essentially making pops need 1/10th the progress to grow and found that it actually improved my performance substantially. Having a dozen of such fleets also makes fleet manager borderline unusable. The laptop transfer happened at the same time as when they updated pop growth to reduce lagn which makes it even more confusing. Thinking something causes bug somewhere that makes this happen as previously was different kind of lag then I encountered now. As has already been said, it creates a late game where you either live. Sports. The most helpful thing is to play with smaller galaxies. Less pops means less of that as well, which is what EDAI provides some of for late-game. Very excited for the 2. Subscribe. One month in 30s also isn't a bad speed. So,. Zane87 Sep 5, 2020 @ 4:54am. This causes A LOT of lag, even in the early game. I am having heavy lag in late game. Report. The main way is if one mod is writing a ton of errors due to conflicting mod files or wrong mod load order that would cause it to slow way down. Causing a constant slowdown instead of a spike lagg. Before the crisis hits, 2. For example, selecting a 6/7 battleship. Is there a way to fix or help with late game lag? Its completely unbearable :The end game crisis did not even started and my empire+my allies are super advanced, makes sense that the xbox is struggling with the amount of planets and stations. This leaves the game CPU bound on a single core. Specs: i9 9900k Cpu, 2080ti gpu, 32 GB Ram, SSD. Duder Apr 8 @ 5:27pm. I recently got into late game the entire galaxy was revealed and even on normal speed i am getting 30 FPS or worse and in battles it goes down hill from here i have to go to speed slow or slowest and still get really bad FPS i have a i5 and 770. The limitation is the game engine. Tried every console command there is. NoDMoD Oct 19, 2021 @ 3:46am. Number of empires & star systems causes most of the lag, since more empires mean more ships that need to calculate routes between more or less star system. otherwise, no. 4, to address the performance issue that appeared for many of you with Tuesday's 3. (And late game Stellaris, with lots of pops, has tons of calculations per tick) To alleviate this, CPUs also have a cache1 which is like having a small amount of really fast RAM on the chip itself. Lag comes from a number of sources; some of them can be alleviated with mods and others can't. Logic Growth Scaling - 1 In this (short) video essay I explore the final, hidden crisis in Stellaris. Because by the time 2400 arrives, fastest speed in late game is the same as normal speed in early game. If you open Task Manager and go into the CPU details you'll notice that when the game is lagging, one core of your CPU will be pegged at 100% and all the others will be near idle. 0 coins. IMO the game is pretty much unplayable past 100 years at the moment. Advertisement Coins. Fewer empires = fewer calculations. 3. #1 Razorblade May 13, 2022 @ 12:31pm There's only so much that can be done. 25 and reduce the end game year back 100 years so the game doesn't have to run for so long and more stuff happens. 25 and reduce the end game year back 100 years so the game doesn't have to run for so long and more stuff happens. Stellaris pop modeling was based on the idea that every pop is important, and each pop has a history -- there are still temporary effects like Recently Conquered / Recently Liberated / Grateful Refugee / etc. Set habitable planets to the lowest. Animals and Pets Anime Art Cars and Motor Vehicles Crafts and DIY Culture, Race, and Ethnicity Ethics and Philosophy Fashion Food and Drink History Hobbies Law Learning and Education Military Movies Music Place Podcasts and Streamers Politics Programming Reading, Writing, and Literature Religion and Spirituality Science Tabletop Games. 2x Habitables, gateways, worm holes and regular hyperlanes density is a recipe for easy lag and crashes. I don't know if its the extra habitats or what. i have no mods installed and have verified cache it happens no matter what game speed i use. This allows Stellaris to still simulate the growth of resources of late game empires, but allows the system to reduce the calculations required when each empire has over 1000+ Downsides The biggest downside is variety - if not adjusted or limited, colonies could end up being limited in number of different pops. Late game lag. Measures to reduce the lag can be to turn off xeno compatibility which will reduce the variety of. Apparently, the problem is caused by trade collection and trade protection being calculated every day instead of something more sensible like monthly (if you hover over the window displaying your trade routes, you can see the numbers changing daily). Hi, folks! I have a 12900k processor with liquid cooling, and even THEN I find that late game pop lag to be unacceptable, and that a setting that defaults to "on"(that is unchangeable mid game) that nerfs pop growth into the dirt after 1-2k, is completely unacceptable. This last game was played in the 2. 3. Though it pushes the calculation bottleneck in Stellaris out a bit, it doesn't prevent the bottleneck itself, so your late game will be just as bad as without the mod. Fix. You can tie the FPS to the refresh rate but double it or half it. With gestalt owning the whole galaxy, and having 4 races i can have over 13k. I also hope that theyre adding more. I can't remember, but late game Stellaris frametimes are all over the place, so you don't want that either. Game still lags a bit when selecting multiple fleets, but now it is actually playable, where other games. #3. Really enjoy long drawn out games where I can plan and micromanage. 7 update, but when I loaded a late-game 2. While you could reduce the amount of pops that causes issues with jobs. As the other poster said, I'd still suggest Gigastructures. 5 seconds, then lag for . However, I think It's NOT the slowed growth per se. Stellaris is pretty speedy in late game with no mods. A bit late here OP but to be perfectly honest, you've got way too many mods going on there! Some of the mods overlap, some cause lag regardless and some are incompatible. it will still lag, but not quite so bad. 6. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Bought Leviathans and Utopia, booted the game up on my desktop after having put it down for a long time, and right from the start the game will drop frames every minute. Too many pops, too many jobs, too many resources. Now the game performance is incredibly bad and game starts slowing down after 30 years. Apr 19, 2021. 75 or 1 4. 2. If anything, a large galaxy with few habitable planets may leave AI empires struggling; they will expand endlessly and run up the “governing capacity” (I play several Paradox games, can’t remember what Stellaris calls it rn) without. Animals and Pets Anime Art Cars and Motor Vehicles Crafts and DIY Culture, Race, and Ethnicity Ethics and Philosophy Fashion Food and Drink History Hobbies Law Learning and Education Military Movies Music Place Podcasts and Streamers Politics Programming Reading, Writing, and Literature Religion and Spirituality Science Tabletop Games. A lot of people are voicing their dislike of the slow pop growth in the lategame, although that was the intended design in order to reduce lag and micromanagement. -[Class Solidification]. Some conflict there causes the lag. Stellaris Real-time strategy Strategy video game Gaming. Go to Stellaris r/Stellaris • by Anakin1882 Celestial Empire Late game too slow. The lag is also inconsistent between saves. The AI for what is worth, does the same, adding to this pile greatly. Mid-to-Late game - I can't even play wih Normal speed. Watch on. And the more pops there are the worse lag gets. Performance is also improved proportionately. Inside star systems, you can only travel at sublight speed. #8. Game slows down by late game but it's reasonable, at least with my Ryzen 5. Personally I just cram 18 AI and 2x pre-ftl into a medium map but I mitigate the lag by doing Necrophage or Synthetic ascension and turning other species. Now I only play max 400 system maps, but even on 400 stars I get lag very late endgame both for modded and unmodded games. When I moved game to SSD they disappeared. Even with 2 games running at once, stellaris being the larger of the two, it still only caps out at 30% mem usage so its not the hardware. They added a feature a few updates ago to customize your game, I don’t exactly remember it off the top of my dead, but it’s a slider when starting a new game that effects how fast pops grow in your game for all nations. As for the mechanism of the problem in my game, that was easy to see: Whenever the Planet Screen was open, FPS (of the whole game, not just the Planet Screen) dropped to a very low value (as could be seen by the slowed-down blinking of the game's Pause indicator), and Windows Task Manager reported constant 100% utilization (i. Jobs are what cause lags, not pops per se, as it all comes to number of calculations. PDX, please, commit to some form of fix for late-game lag. I use mods, myself, but I understand that the game is not optimized for mods. You'll still find wormholes to unique systems and in the very late game a sparse amount of gateways will still be possible (mostly from awakened fallen empires). Late-game crisis can clear out some of the POPs, Thanos style, but it's a game of patience at this point and it's not fun. I don’t notice my game slowing down that much in the late game and my cpu is an i7-4790k and have 12gb ram with a gtx980. Repeatables being dull is the symptom, not the cause. The 3080 is plenty for stellaris graphics need, but the late game lag isnt caused by graphics issues. About 1-1. Some of the causes of fleet selection lag, and how to deal with them. Game Version: 3. Best. if the console hardware can't deal with it, the console version could simply ship with smaller galaxy settings that would keep the game within the limits of the hardware. Although it's caused by pop numbers, I've found that disabling the Steam overlay helps significantly. way up until the late game when everything runs slow due to all the AI processes (NOTE: Reducing amount of AI empires, and more specifically with mods, to make them. The mod gets the AI under control without affecting the gameplay of players and almost not affecting (as much as possible). i hope to god this gets updated soon it was honestly the only reason i even had infinite stellaris downloaded cause it reall did make a massive diffrence lowering end game lagThe problem of lag/stutter with Stellaris is when you play logged to Paradox. So I removed almost every species trait from the game. I firmly believe playing a smaller galaxy and/or reducing habitability can help thought. Warp or hyperdrive only seems to reduce late game lag for me. What usually causes me to end a game is the cripplingly bad lag that tends to set in in late game which makes playing more of a chore than a fun game #14. 3 patch. Having a dozen of such fleets also makes fleet manager borderline unusable. Personally I just cram 18 AI and 2x pre-ftl into a medium map but I mitigate the lag by doing Necrophage or Synthetic ascension and turning other species. Fixing late-game lag. Jul 21, 2022. ii. The lag used to only be a late game issue (causing me to never finish a game of Stellaris), but it has now spread to mid-game as well sadly, and I see DLC upon DLC being released as if it's all fine and normal when the BASIC issue of the game, the performance, has never been properly addressed. 9 - GTX960) OFC on my old Q6600 @2. To fix Stellaris late game there need to be goals to work towards which naturally tend to end in a resolved-game state. This is a performance mod that mostly prevents the AI from causing the game to lag due to some of its actions, among other things. Less habitable worls means less pops overall, which in turn means less lag. Subscribe to downloadAI Game Performance Optimisation Fix 3. In general performance slows down a good bit after 2375, so if you stick with default, you may never actually see endgame because you quit after it slows down. 2 for me except the ai isn't constantly steeling the fed fleet from me and redesigning it anymore. The main solution I use is the one above. Fixing late-game lag. -Having your fleet simply selected definitely causes a massive late game slowdown, so refrain from that. 4 to see if it's fixed for me or not. Late game lag got better yes at moment game runs fine and suddenly major stutter while cpu cores not max stressed the issue used be when a cpu core was stressed to the max so somewhere its improved. Starting at the mid-game, the decrease in performance accelerates and the performance gap between versions widens dramatically. Late game lag aside, this is a separate issue that happens right from the beginning. •. In Stellaris I only play on max size medium maps. So I’ve played about 10-12 games now late into 2500-2600. Stellaris is not a static game; it is ever-evolving, and every DLC release adds more complexity. It runs at ~1 day/second at 1x speed and at 3x speed. RULE 5: A photo of a tweet proving this is true. So given that there seems to be a engine issue that leads to late game lag does anyone have any tips for getting the late game at least playable?And since this is the case, it likely means they are the cause. And at 32-bit it can adress up to 4GB. So the gameplay loop would be: Play game normallyReleased in 2016, Stellaris is relatively old, so most modern systems can handle it – but being able to “run” a game doesn’t mean you can’t aim at smoother performance. Stellaris > General Discussions > Topic Details. Stellaris Stuttering p2. Lag comes from a number of sources; some of them can be alleviated with mods and others can't. And I also play with up to 40 mods engaged - usually around 35 to 38 mods. 6 playthrough in the new patch, the game got catastrophically slow. #3. And those were long, meaning 1-3 secs, lags, not in late game. First: It appears that significant performance drop when selecting fleets is, in part, caused by them being not full and game trying to trace reinforcement shipyards. Close all the outliner sections. You have probably noticed that a ingame day passes much slower than it did when you first started the save. #7. 5 habitable planets (I don't like playing with any more than that because of micromanagement). 3. Agreed. ago. You haven't found a solution because there isn't one. 3 update improved game performance a lot, couldn’t keep up at fastest for the first 50-100 years of the game but now there’s so much lag and it constantly freezes for a few seconds it takes forever to get anywhere in the game. So, yeah. More pops = more lag. 3 the late game lag is hideous. That's why there's late-game lag. That's just how the game works, PDX tried to work around it by significantly reducing pop count but it only does so much. The ultimate endgame crisis and one of Stellaris biggest problems paired with lack of content (which is connected to braindead AI). (I've simmed many observer games and they all lag to hell in the late game), but nothing noteworthy. I wish I could go larger, but the creeping slowness is awful. I ships not being upgraded. 2. By mid game it gets even worse - random FPS jumps every second anywhere between 40s and 120. Otherwise id say go for a first if their kind start and let the primitives get to space age, that significantly turns down the lag until later. Stellaris will delete the commands everytime you exit and you must put the commands in the console when starting Stellaris. The best way to fix end-game lag is to not buy DLC. 3. Stellaris is just poorly coded, this amount of lag isn't even there when i run a 3D render software in the background. I can't say it enough, reducing pathing is the most important factor in reducing late game lag. Less stars. It seems to clear up the issue for a while, then it slowly returns the longer the game is running. That means the less type of pops. 5 years due to frustration of a terrbly slow endgame on any size larger galaxy than small. Got to mid late game, (before crisis or titans) in a medium galaxy, tried to have a war on another civ, but the game lagged to an unplayable state. I personally think, that Stellaris 2 will be released after EU5 and no earlier than HOI5, so a 2024 release date, which is around the same time between CK2 and CK3, is most plausible from my perspective. The main issue comes back to lag. All the other games I have run at the same speed or faster, but stellaris is 10x slower. 5. There are currently no buildings in Stellaris (except FE buildings) that produce stuff without generating jobs. I already had the standard Stellaris late-game lag, but under 2. ErenIsNotADevil • 1 yr. It's the exact same problem, only starting 25-50 years later and the performance issues still prevent games from being playable past the mid game stages. Unfortunately Stellaris is one of those games that kinda require a beefy rig to run past a certain date :/. Selecting the fleet alone nearly causes my game to utterly freeze up and I found its literally the result of the amount of guns comboed with special things on each ship further made worse by the. grinch12345 • 3 yr. Please find more details below. I deliberately turn it off because while fun causes huge lag in the hands of a player and only a bit less in the hands of the AI. ♥♥♥♥. Report. Put game speed down from faster or fastest to just normal in late game mostly it runs bit smoother then. Limit the FPS to obtain the "no-tearing" effect without the lag. Logic Growth Scaling – 1. This is the first and foremost reason for lag, because AI loves to interbreed, and you get 28 flavours of Neo-meta-new-trans-ascended Human 2. ) Reduce the amount of habitable planets to . If you don’t have the cash to get yourself an Intel Core i5 12000K, a GeForce RTX 3080, and 32GB of RAM, then modding the game to reduce lag is the way to go. An alternative partial solution to late-game lag. Last is CPU speed. 8 comments. You can also do the following: 1. if you want to try, and use that word very loosely, to mitigate the lag, you'd need to tweak your galaxy settings. Bigger than medium is for supercomputers. Best thing i did to combat late game lag was get a mod that wont allow AI habitats. use the stellaris_test beta branch, it fixes some of the more egregious lags caused by worms/gateways. Hearts of iron is shameful at current state. Population is what causes game lag with how many calculations that run around them. Steps to reproduce the issue. (I5 k6600@3. Collapsing the individual outliner sections (not the entire outliner) can also help a bit. Some mods can help like my mod prevent ai from spamming habitats various other performance mods. Calculating and comparing weights for both jobs: the job you are looking for and the job the current employed pop. Wheter the engine is 32 or 64 bit has little to no effect on performance of this game. There's no end-game situation which causes the game to naturally resolve into a conclusion in someone's favor. 4 All Dlc's included. 4 the same game is a slideshow, but Q6600 is less that the current minimun requeriment for stellaris. These are also important for improving late game performance by slowing pop growth. ago. . Every 4x game lags end game. But i played this game again after 2 years and spent a lot on DLC. It also helps (a smaller amount) to turn down the habitable worlds setting. it will still lag, but not quite so bad. I run the game at 120+ FPS, I have very little lag even late game on. Absolutely refreshing to play at early-game speeds all the time. 7 (ea03) which causes game to crash about 55 minutes after start of play. You can also set tech cost to 0. Almost a year has passed and there's no indication that this is a problem that is being worked on or a priority. Valheim Genshin Impact Minecraft Pokimane Halo Infinite Call of Duty: Warzone Path of Exile Hollow Knight: Silksong Escape from Tarkov Watch Dogs: Legion. Hi all, We've now released a hotfix, 3. A few years ago I stopped playing because of an issue with the clausewitz engine and single processor load limitations at every date tick, which was making progression in a large galaxy impossible after a certain date - meaning that even at max speed it took forever to move forward in time from the calculation loads of all trade. . I already had the standard Stellaris late-game lag, but under 2. The best thing to reduce the current late game lag in 2. Certain systems, (ones with tons of pops) still might lag a little, but significantly less so that when unmerged. Any Portrait Mod.